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Enigmatics · Sep 09, 2005, 09:42 PM // 21:42

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Originally Posted by Aniewiel

As has been said about a billion times: This game is NOT about so-called "uber" weaponry. It is about the camraderie of cooperative gameplay and the competition in the PvP areas. THAT'S IT.

People who want to "farm" and find "uber" items to sell for exhorbitant amounts of toon gold need to find another game to play where that's an integral part of the experience. GW isn't about that sort of thing.

Summed up.

I'll also bring up the fact that some people WANT Guild Wars to be that type of game.

Mustache Mayhem · Sep 09, 2005, 09:51 PM // 21:51

yeah I don't see the problem.. I think it's cool they have the new content and green weapons are a nice goal for most players.. far as nerfing farmers in uw- all can say is they nerfed the newbs.. yesterday got a gold storm off smites and gold eternal shield from the new phantom chest- you won't see either of these in sorrows.. ecto seems to drop the same- it's slower to farm than before but only cause you have to pay attention now.. if your good you'll see it is'nt really a nerf but it looks like more of a bot eliminator

Levi Garett · Sep 09, 2005, 09:51 PM // 21:51

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Originally Posted by salja Wachi

we can finally use local chat for it's intented purpose

Local chat was never intended to be used to sell stuff. That's what the trade channel is for. Bet you've never heard that before!

The way you have worded this statement is saying you were spamming trade info on local chat. Only jackasses do that!

Ensign · Sep 09, 2005, 09:56 PM // 21:56

Chests are a new form of gambling. They convert excess gold into rare items. This should help suck a lot of 'dead' gold out of the economy, as it gets gambled into random rare drops.

Remember that people will often pay 5k for an unided max rare regardless of type. Chests are significantly cheaper than that, and much faster and easier. I'd say that the change to chests is the best economic update in the game to date.

Peace,
-CxE

Splatter Mcnasty · Sep 09, 2005, 09:57 PM // 21:57

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Originally Posted by Aniewiel

As has been said about a billion times: This game is NOT about so-called "uber" weaponry. It is about the camraderie of cooperative gameplay and the competition in the PvP areas. THAT'S IT.

People who want to "farm" and find "uber" items to sell for exhorbitant amounts of toon gold need to find another game to play where that's an integral part of the experience. GW isn't about that sort of thing.

Bullshit

The game is meant to be played however each player wants. I like finding, having, trading good quality items. I like customizing my character appearance. I like playing PvE. I cant stand PVP!

If the game was meant to be PVP-only, co-op play, then it would not have been created with a role-playing storyline element.

As for this update, I love it! I like having slightly easier access to the high-quality loot.

Bottom Line: You play it however you want, and I'll play it however I want.

sidepocket13 · Sep 09, 2005, 09:59 PM // 21:59

i am assuming the ascelon area has keys and chests right? and i am doubting those chests will drop max items?

emil knight · Sep 09, 2005, 10:05 PM // 22:05

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Originally Posted by sidepocket13

i am assuming the ascelon area has keys and chests right? and i am doubting those chests will drop max items?

Correct... all areas have chest with corresponding keys, and all dropped a roughly scaled to the area they are in. Basically the chests drop the same items you would expect to see from monsters, only (hopefully) a bit better.

Cobalt · Sep 09, 2005, 11:32 PM // 23:32

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Originally Posted by ddoogle

As you know with chest keys and maxed modded Green weapons gold items aint worth much no more,

Looks like Anets plan is backfiring

I have seen the green axe and green shields selling for 500k to a freaking million already. More people than ever are farming, but they are farming bosses in the new area.

MSecorsky · Sep 09, 2005, 11:34 PM // 23:34

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Originally Posted by Cobalt

Looks like Anets plan is backfiring

I have seen the green axe and green shields selling for 500k to a freaking million already. More people than ever are farming, but they are farming bosses in the new area.

Anyone with partial brain function will realize it's much cheaper to go get their own.

Aniewiel · Sep 09, 2005, 11:42 PM // 23:42

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Originally Posted by MSecorsky

Anyone with partial brain function will realize it's much cheaper to go get their own.

Quoted once again for truth. Since the green drops are more frequent and accessible to anyone, people will stop paying idiotic prices for things they can get themselves.

Bingley Joe · Sep 09, 2005, 11:53 PM // 23:53

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Originally Posted by LeviGarrett

Local chat was never intended to be used to sell stuff. That's what the trade channel is for. Bet you've never heard that before!

The way you have worded this statement is saying you were spamming trade info on local chat. Only jackasses do that!

I totally don't see where you get that from his post..

Numa Pompilius · Sep 09, 2005, 11:58 PM // 23:58

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Originally Posted by Tom425

I personally want to destroy all seller that wants anything over 100K for Gold weapons. For example...before the update, the lowest offer for a vampiric sword is 175K...

The hyperbole in this thread is stunning.
Items costing more than 10K were extremely rare - basically only perfect max gold weapons of a very few types (fellblades, stormbows, eternal shields, chaos axes) - and were actually sold even more rarely. People were not unable to afford good weapons, they were unable to afford those perfect gold weapons. Back down one step in specs, and the weapon was affordable to anyone.

A vampiric sword 1:3 could be had for less than 10K, and 1:1 and 1:2's have always been cheap.

What has happened now is that the possibility to make serious money, ie 3-10K, by finding a good item or rune is gone. Which certainly wont make it easier for anyone who isn't already rich to get their FOW armor.

So the up-side is that everyone can and will now get gold max items & superior vigor (prices will drop), and the down-side is that it'll be a lot harder to get rich quick.

Witchblade · Sep 10, 2005, 12:41 AM // 00:41

the prob is..when u cant stand PvP u r in an outpost wondering "wtf am i gonna do now"
PvP is such an unrewarding crap

Teufel Eldritch · Sep 10, 2005, 12:50 AM // 00:50

Personally I don't like using the chests. Out of the 20 or so keys I have bought(@ War Camp) I have never recieved anything really uber. Sure max damage this & max dmage that. Purple this & gold that but never anything really f'n awesome. I won't be buying keys anymore.

That said... I don't mind the keys at all & if they are better for the game, the economy & whatever then great! But I will be keeping my money in my pocket. Guess I'm just not a gambler.

Gwenhywar · Sep 10, 2005, 01:08 AM // 01:08

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Originally Posted by LeviGarrett

Local chat was never intended to be used to sell stuff. That's what the trade channel is for. Bet you've never heard that before!

The way you have worded this statement is saying you were spamming trade info on local chat. Only jackasses do that!

Made me smirk a little ... you completely misunderstood the poster that you quoted for your nasty comment. If you have troubles understanding ironic text in English, salja meant to say now people can actually CHAT in the allchat, since it won't be spammed full of WTS-es ... well, hopefully

I'm most certainly not against trading as such though, it's just that a large part of the traders seem to be 6 year olds with surgically removed brain

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flashz · Sep 10, 2005, 01:11 AM // 01:11

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Originally Posted by ddoogle

As you know with chest keys and maxed modded Green weapons gold items aint worth much no more, Arena Net dont want this game to be a silly "godly" item and that kinda game, its a GAMERS game so i got news for YOU...get with it or get out!,

Just wait till chapter 2 comes out, it WILL be end of the 100k+ weapons of anykind..

man, now all the lazy ass newbs are coming out, if u started earning money like the most of us *farming, buying low sellin high* you wouldn't be saying this..... Most of the people happy with this update are the ones with 10k in there bank's and uses collector items and complains the prices are to high when they dont do a damn thing to try and earn money in the game, look around so much ways to make money.....

Carinae · Sep 10, 2005, 01:15 AM // 01:15

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Originally Posted by flashz

man, now all the lazy ass newbs are coming out, if u started earning money like the most of us *farming, buying low sellin high* you wouldn't be saying this..... Most of the people happy with this update are the ones with 10k in there bank's and uses collector items and complains the prices are to high when they dont do a damn thing to try and earn money in the game, look around so much ways to make money.....

amen!

Mimi Miyagi · Sep 10, 2005, 01:17 AM // 01:17

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Originally Posted by Teufel Eldritch

Personally I don't like using the chests. Out of the 20 or so keys I have bought(@ War Camp) I have never recieved anything really uber. Sure max damage this & max dmage that. Purple this & gold that but never anything really f'n awesome. I won't be buying keys anymore.

That said... I don't mind the keys at all & if they are better for the game, the economy & whatever then great! But I will be keeping my money in my pocket. Guess I'm just not a gambler.

I was with a PUG a few days ago - and one of the guys got a Gold Fellblade out of a chest.

Amand · Sep 10, 2005, 01:18 AM // 01:18

buying low - selling high could also be considered as ripping people off, since you exploit their inexperience. Nothing you earn there, stop living in an illusion.

Gwenhywar · Sep 10, 2005, 01:41 AM // 01:41

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Originally Posted by Amand

buying low - selling high could also be considered as ripping people off, since you exploit their inexperience. Nothing you earn there, stop living in an illusion.

there is a BIG difference between buying a black dye in presearing for 200 g from a newbie that didn't know its value (which is just plain scamming), and buying +28 HP upgrade in LA, stuffing it on a max 15>50 popular sword model to sell it for a big price to someone who wants to spent lots of cash for something he thinks is a "1337" weapon. The latter is simply called business talent ... nothing wrong with that, except that obviously some people who don't have it might be jealous.

I know I'm not a businessperson, and don't enjoy trading at all, but kudos to people who find ways to make their money instead of coming to forums to whine they have never had over 30 plat (so far as they aren't scamming newbies for it of course).